[identity profile] skysheep.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] engineering_ru
Прошло три года после того как я купил Теслу (отчет после 1 года можно прочитать тут).  Пока все нормально.  За три года проехал 15 тысяч миль (около 25 тысяч километров).

Средний расход энергии был 151 Втч/км, или 15.1 кВтч/100км. Правда это учитывает только энергию во время движения, и не учитывает энергию потерянную при зарядке (около 7%). Тесла также потребляет немного энергии когда выключена (около 0.5 кВтч в день). Поэтому общий расход наверно ближе к 4500 кВтч, или около 18 кВтч на 100 км.




За прошлый год у машины были две поломки. Оба раза она меня предупредила заранее сообщениями на экране, что надо бы заехать в сервис.  Я заехал, и мне по гарантии поменяли 12 вольтовую батaрейку, и какой-то там инвертoр.






Тесла регулярно обновляет программное обеспечение, и добавляет новых фич.  В этом году они русифицировали меню, теперь можно на русский язык переключить настройки.  Наверно подготавливаются к завоевыванию российского авторынка.




Помимо этого, они добавили возможность видеть боковые камеры на экране. 



Также, они добавили возможность смотреть камеры в машине с телефона, удаленно.

Емкость батереи снизилась за 3 года.  Вначале при полном заряде показывала около 418 км пробега теперь показывает около 368 км.  Выходит емкость около 88% от первоначальной. 


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Date: 2021-11-20 09:58 pm (UTC)
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Date: 2021-11-20 10:06 pm (UTC)
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Мдя. Снижение ёмкости расстраивает. Но скорее всего выпустят более совершенные батарейки рано или поздно. Можно будет заменить.
А остальное в EV мало изнашивается. Движущихся частей минимум.

Date: 2021-11-20 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theholm.livejournal.com
Меня малость пугает Теславская идея с интегрированием батареи в силовой набор. Батарея просела, и что всю машину менять ?

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за три года у меня 80000 километров, зима, холмы, местами горы. Обогрев салона ест больше, чем кондиционирование, а в ДВС это часть сути двигателя.

зачем вести журнал как вам прекрасно в Калифорнии на русском? (или Флориде не помню точно, но сути не меняет) У нас тут не так, от слова, вообще не так.

Для примера, беру аккумуляторный шуруповерт, отличная вещь, про дрель почти забыл. Но!
Вот эксперимент, сильно зажимаю рукой патрон, жму на кнопку, естественно он пытается сопротивляться ,но я держу крепко. Минут пять-десять такого сопротивления, и все, батарея высажена. В чем фокус? В том, что мы не знаем что такое электричество. Не знаем от слова вообще.

Date: 2021-11-20 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boud.livejournal.com
Всё лицо разбил фейспалмами.

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Date: 2021-11-20 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 22sobaki.livejournal.com
<глядя в меню на первом снимке> Бардачок с экрана открывается?

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Date: 2021-11-20 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rusec.livejournal.com
25к за три года – 22 км в день — я пешком не сильно меньше прохожу, для машины это вообще ни о чём. Рекомендую велосипед без мотора, пробег как раз под него.
На машине я езжу раз в неделю, 25к или больше получается за год.
Если же на машине не ездить, то расход энергии не принципиален. А скорость деградации батареи прям пугает.

Date: 2021-11-20 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boud.livejournal.com
Давным давно всякие там таксисты и прочие "профессионалы" любили говорить, мол, если не ездишь по двадцать тысяч в год ( тридцать, пятьдесят, разные были цифры), то и машина не нужна тебе. Гейткипинг какой-то получается, по пробегу.
Моё же мнение тут однозначно - личный автомобиль вообще не обязан никому ничего. У кого-то есть ретро техника, вообще без пробега, а кто-то считает каждую копейку, выбирая машины с минимальными эксплуатационными затратами и максимальной стоимостью на вторичке, не глядя на цвет и размер... Это хорошо и так и должно быть, иначе мы скатимся к единому стандарту легкового автомобиля ( ЕСЛА) который сейчас активнейше осваивают и корейцы и китайцы, да и остальные туда же тянутся. Яркий пример - все эти недоприводные кроссоверы, полностью выдавившие хэтчбеки и универсалы с рынка. Абсолютно одинаковые внешне и схожие по динамике и размерам. Тигго, джак, хэвэйл, корейцы - они все одинаковы. Это печалит.

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Date: 2021-11-20 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rexroth.livejournal.com
Возникает вопрос. Сколько по времени она "заправляется", сколько ждать в очереди среди таких же тесловодов (если их будет много) и какая нужна инфраструктура для зарядных "колонок"?

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Date: 2021-11-20 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mechnik.livejournal.com
Некислые потери батареи. Раз так в 8 больше, чем заявляли.

Date: 2021-11-21 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dronkrz.livejournal.com
У меня за 3 года с 310 до 290 миль при полном заряде уменьшилось. При чем пробег, в отличии от автору, 50 тысяч миль.

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Date: 2021-11-20 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alj868.livejournal.com
Вывод: с теслой приходится мало ездить. Наверное она большую часть времени на заправке стоит: на дырявом ф150 люди набирают по 10к миль в год.

Date: 2021-11-21 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ostapru.livejournal.com
ХЗ
Я на своём F150 наездил чуть больше 25к (как раз на неделе год был).
Но он у меня не дырявый ;)

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Date: 2021-11-20 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] livejournal.livejournal.com
Здравствуйте!
Ваша запись попала в Ваша запись попала в топ-25 популярных записей LiveJournal (https://www.livejournal.com/ratings/). Подробнее о рейтинге читайте в Справке (https://www.dreamwidth.org/support/faqbrowse?faqid=303).

Date: 2021-11-20 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] livejournal.livejournal.com
Здравствуйте! Ваша запись попала в топ-25 популярных записей LiveJournal России (https://www.livejournal.com/ratings/?rating=ru)! Подробнее о рейтинге читайте в Справке (https://www.dreamwidth.org/support/faqbrowse?faqid=303).

Date: 2021-11-20 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boud.livejournal.com
Традиционное спасибо автору за фактуру. Как раз сегодня вспоминал, что давно не было отчётов.

Date: 2021-11-20 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xy.livejournal.com
Я очень редко когда заряжаю на больше, чем 180 миль (из 250 возможных). И никогда на суперчарджерах — их просто нет там, где я живу (не знаю есть ли связь между зарядкой на суперчарджере и battery life) . За два года не заметил особого уменьшения ёмкости.

Date: 2021-11-21 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ostapru.livejournal.com
Поскольку на Тесле обыкновенный литий, то связь обыкновенная — быстрая зарядка быстрей просаживает батарейку. И циклы полный заряд/разряд — тоже быстрее.
Вы батарейку используете в щадящем режиме, потому и просадка ёмкости сильно меньше.

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Date: 2021-11-21 12:17 am (UTC)
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Меня не интересуют проблемы владельцев — главное это проблемы обычных людей вынужденных дышать выхлопами чудовищных бензиновых моторов. Когда их запретят?

Date: 2021-11-21 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mydogandi.livejournal.com
Когда понастроят кучу АЭС.

Вы чем электрички собрались заряжать? "Зелёная" энергетика в этом году отчётливо показала свою "эффективность" сначала в Техасе, а теперь вот и в Европе.

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Date: 2021-11-21 12:20 am (UTC)
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У меня тоже Тесла чуть больше 3 лет уже. Почти 50 тысяч миль правда пробега. Все отлично. Никаких поломок не было. Только, как и вы один раз поменял 12 вольтовый аккумулятор. Все. Недавно еще получил FSD бету. Теперь по обычным улицам на автопилоте тоже езжу.

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Date: 2021-11-21 01:40 am (UTC)
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Пока не придумают компактную автономную энергоустановку непосредственно в машине всё это баловство.
Сколько проедешь на той Тесле с её батарейками в сибирские морозы с отоплением салона?

Date: 2021-11-21 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] checkstatus.livejournal.com

Приседалыч делал видео на ваш вопрос.

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Date: 2021-11-21 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nemojgusar.livejournal.com
Вопрос владельцам: как долго, имея полный заряд, Тесла может стоять припаркованной до приемлемого (проехать 20 км, например) разряда?

Date: 2021-11-21 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serg-svt.livejournal.com
Автор написал — 0,5 квтч в сутки.

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Date: 2021-11-21 02:08 am (UTC)
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А какая гарантия? На сколько лет мои побега?

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Date: 2021-11-21 02:50 am (UTC)
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я за год проехал 30 т.км и деградация менее 1 процента, и морозы у нас бывают 30 гр

Date: 2021-11-21 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aam0lj.livejournal.com
у меня смарт электрический. засунул в теплый гараж на зимую Т.е. е стоит бояться кирдык батарея?

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Date: 2021-11-21 03:24 am (UTC)
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А сколько страховка стоит на Теслу? слышал чуть ли не 200 долларов в месяц, это правда?

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Date: 2021-11-21 03:37 am (UTC)
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За три года 15кмиль? !!! Средний пробег по стране 15кмиль в год. Так что считаем, что за ОДИН год упала ёмкость батареи на 12 процентов и две поломки на НОВОЙ машине. Ну что же, по надежности хуже Крайслера. Будем знать.

Date: 2021-11-21 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dronkrz.livejournal.com
Замена 12 вольтового аккумулятора 1 раз за 3 года это не поломка. У меня за три года 50 тысяч пробег и емкость батареи упала на 7-8 процентов. А еще не надо менять масло, его нет, и тормозные колодки не изнашиваются практически совсем.

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Date: 2021-11-21 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asintez.livejournal.com
Меня мучает один вопрос — зарядка не напрягает? Все таки это не минуты а часы... И что делать в это время

Date: 2021-11-21 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dronkrz.livejournal.com
С чего вы взяли, что часы? Часы это ночью дома от домашней розетки. Дома можно посмотреть телевизор, книжку почитать, посидеть в интернете, поспать в конце-концов ведь на дворе ночь.

В долгих же поездках вы будете заряжаться на суперчарджерах 20-30-40 минут. Наоборот хорошо. После трех часов езды можно пойти спокойно перекусить и передохнуть и со свежей головой проехать спокойно еще несколько часов. Мне так нравится больше.

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Date: 2021-11-21 03:43 am (UTC)
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около 0.5 кВтч в день... это же 500 ватт в день? Не перебор ?

Date: 2021-11-21 06:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rus-unordnung.livejournal.com
20 вт в час. Не так уж и много.

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Запилите ещё пост про солар панельки на крыше и power wall, что там как.
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Date: 2021-11-21 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dronkrz.livejournal.com
В отличии от какого другого автомобиля?

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